originally posted by Wayne
I would take Janny's word for the release date. She did just ost last week that she was informed by distributor that the date fir US release had changed… I would guess that Amazon just hasn't gotten around to updating their listing
originally posted by Sleo
Well, perhaps, but it may have changed yet again.
originally posted by Sleo
At any rate I ordered mine from the Book Depository which has free shipping worldwide and I will get it on the UK release date.
originally posted by Clansman
Sleo, so did I.
At any rate, never trust Amazon's dates. Ever.
originally posted by Sleo
Yo!
originally posted by Jeff
I just received a second notification from Amazon.com that the PAPERBACK of Initiate's Trial is available for preorder. There is no release date listed.
The one I preordered is the hardcover.
originally posted by Annette
I just realised amazon.co.uk does have both blurbs up, they have Janny's revised one for the paperback.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wars-Light-Shadow-Initiates-Trial/dp/000721782X/ref=tmm_ pap_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1302801885&sr=8-1
The original blurb is still there for the hardcover.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wars-Light-Shadow-Initiates-Trial/dp/0007362129/ref=tmm_ hrd_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1302801885&sr=8-1
And the USA site has a revised original one removing some of the more misleading elements.
http://www.amazon.com/Initiates-Trial-First-Library-Shadow/dp/0007362129/ref=tmm _hrd_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1302801658&sr=8-1
I do not mind the blurb being about the first chapter although spicing it up a bit by playing more on Arithon's peril if he does not get freed (skip the spoiler about the daughter freeing him) and Lysaers struggle to control himself and his fanatics will probably grab more new readers. Got to play with the emotions, even in the blurb.
I have no idea why there is a confusion over the US Amazon listing; or at this stage, what is accurate…
I had thought there would be a simultaneous release, but the US distributor informed me of the January date, apparently confirmed by Jeff's finding of the listings at HC UK.
I am still waiting to hear back from my editor on so much, it's a long list. Will try to get to the bottom of the confusion, once I can get a bead on someone who can give me the direct line.
Annette - thanks for the comment.
originally posted by Trys
The information at harpercollins.co.uk doesn't include a US release date.
originally posted by Paige Madison
The current listing on US Amazon appears to be an imported edition from the UK.
Hardcover: 544 pages
Publisher: HarperCollins UK; Library edition (October 27, 2011)
Language: English
ISBN-10: 0007362129
ISBN-13: 978-0007362127
The "US" Edition does not exist - it IS an imported title from the UK, distributed through Trafalgar…the question in progress is, when the 'export' from the UK will go on sale in the USA…
I had inquired when, through the distributor, and got the January target - if that is in error (the listings were not fed, yet, to Amazon and elsewhere), who knows if their date was in error, or if the listing at Amazon is not accurate? It's a complex chain, and there are many points along the way for the data to get mixed up. I apologize for the frustration. Once I get the artwork turned in (very soon, now) I will try again to get to the bottom of it.
originally posted by Sleo
Just preorder it from the Book Depository. You'll get it near the 27th and there's free shipping world wide.
originally posted by Laneth Sffarlenn
Just throwing it out there: Since the last US publisher dropped the series due to, I'm assuming at least in part, a lck of sales, wouldn't it be much better for those in the US to order it through the US booksellers?
If all the US fans order from the UK upon launch, there'd be little activity when launched in the US and this could only reflect poorly in the new publishers mind?
originally posted by Sleo
Laneth, I don't think it matters as the publisher is Harper Collins who's based in the UK. It's total sales that matter. And it wasn't poor sales that interrupted the publishing of the series, but upheavals in the publishing company. Janny's been with Harper Collins for years. The book is being published in the UK, sold there, and then exported to the US for sale. It's the same book. Janny has a US distributor, a UK publisher. Or at least that's my understanding of the situation.
originally posted by Laneth Sffarlenn
Hey Sleo,
Thanks for that - firstly, I honestly didn't mean to insinuate poor sales in any event!
As for the publisher being based in the UK, that's brilliant. Puts my mind at rest regarding the order counts / continuity of the series being distributed.
Regarding the US distributor, it's a little strange that they cannot ship/distribute on the UK launch, but then I am not really in the know so I'll back to lurking.
originally posted by Annette
quote:The "US" Edition does not exist - it IS an imported title from the UK, distributed through Trafalgar…the question in progress is, when the 'export' from the UK will go on sale in the USA…
Trafalgar Square Publishing? Who were brought out and are now IPG.
http://ipgbook.com
Why have they listed all the WoLaS books as trade paperbacks when they are the normal mass-market paperback size?
Annette - IPG, yes…
The release pattern is (now) following the UK pattern, all along - they released hardback and trade paperback simultaneously, then did mass market at a later release…
Publishers measure books (and series) by HOW WELL THE LAST ONE SOLD…so, if you love an author or a series, or want the next in hardback - buy the format you want, new, ON RELEASE or pre-order…publishers are not charities, they print for profit and 'how good' a work is doesn't add up or make their bottom line.
Without a publisher doing the work of printing/warehousing/distribution, etc, I could not write books/a series of this depth and quality - it's a full time endeavor. The more readership and appreciation a series gains, then, the more 'buffer zone' a book or author's name has, to see it through setbacks, economic shifts, price changes, and publisher upheavals.
I write the very best books I can/ensure the quality and deliver a solid plotline and characters and ending to each book - after that, it's the bigger picture. I cross my fingers and trust to faith that there will be enough readers, fast enough, to stay on top of the curve.
The hardback for Stormed Fortress missed the curve by a VERY narrow margin - it shouldn't have, but it did…the bar got moved, it was on the wrong side of the numbers game, and there was no US market to bolster the setback…I will keep working forward to remedy that lapse - the easiest and slickest 'fix' to the problem is more reader demand and a growth curve upward…there are other ways, but the road to accomplish that is a lot harder OR a lot iffier - reader satisfaction is the best backing - and if I do my job, the cream ought to rise.
A new book bought on release Anywhere, this side or that side - works to support the new title. New readers who start the series today and read through - and love it enough to draw in more new readers - THAT also builds reader expectation - builds for Initiate's Trial before pub date.
And I know there are many of you here who are the very best backing I have going, and even, are some of the reason I am still here at all, even through publisher shake ups - so thank you all for your caring about these books!
Let me say - the new posts in the General Discussion are AWESOME!!! Do feel free to jump on board at GoodReads - the series group discussion is complete, but can still take posts (and some readers are still working through) and the one at Beyond REality is in the last lap of Stormed Fortress.
I am painting cover art! 
originally posted by Paige Madison
I have changed my order to the Book Depository. Publishing is definitely a weird business sometimes. You would think that HarperCollins would just print it on both sides of the pond and distribute it accordingly, but that shows you what I know.
Janny, this series is so amazing! I can just read it over and over! I really appreciate your efforts and Oct 27th can't came soon enough!
originally posted by Jason Dagle
The only thing I didn't like about with ordering from Book Depository is that they charged me for the book now instead of when the book is shipped, like Amazon does.
originally posted by Sleo
All bookstores do that. I preordered one a book at Amazon not long ago and they charged me when I ordered it.